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Wicksfield 12-24-2012 12:20:56 67.236.53.80 Report to Moderator	I've always had red tractors but would like to have a 190XT w/o cab. For the 190 experts, please share with me things I should look for. Is a series III better than the other ones? What are the serial number breaks? Thanks in advance for your response. [Reply]   [No Email]
Dalet 01-01-2013 17:43:28 184.94.141.146 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Wicksfield, 12-24-2012 12:20:56   Neighbor has a 190XT, I sure like the sound of it. I have never used it though. A Pro would be, its pleasure for others watching you use it! :lol:   [Reply]  [No Email]
Longmeadow farm 12-26-2012 12:27:05 72.224.6.238 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Wicksfield, 12-24-2012 12:20:56   Series III have a 4 pinion differential. Heavy tillage work often took the rear ends out of the early 190xt. Constant mesh 4 speed transmission was reliable but only if you were careful/patient during shifting, which most people were not... so you get lots of slipping out of gear problems. Serial number range: 23001 to 30938. The 190 had an optional hydraulically actuated PTO clutch for a fully independent PTO. Using a large round bale baler without the independent PTO can become rather tiresome, but it depends on the baler. I used a 100 series tractor many years ago with a generation 1 John Deere round baler. After a 50 - 60 bale afternoon... I was ready for the funny farm.   [Reply]  [No Email]
scotc 01-01-2013 17:24:28 75.239.92.64 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Longmeadow farm, 12-26-2012 12:27:05   We ran a Gehl 1470 (I think) with the 190. Hand clutch was nice when you plugged, pull uphill, hit the clutch, put the PTO in, and feather the hand clutch while rolling back. Turn the PTO backward and most times pushed the plug back out.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Banditfarmer 12-25-2012 08:01:32 174.103.144.93 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Wicksfield, 12-24-2012 12:20:56   There are several things to look at. Make sure it dosent jump out of any gear and the power director (hand clutch)works right and dosent creep. One of the biggest things to look at on theses is the tork tube to the transmission area for welds or cracks in the castings, If it has a turbo or been turned up you realy need to look at this area. If I remember right it went like this, 190, 190XT, 190XT Land Handler, 190XT Land Handler11(2) and a Land Handler 111(3) if I remember right. The 190 just about all were snap coupler and the 190XT could be SC or 3pt and the land Handlers were all 3pt. All the 190's were good tractors and the later ones were better dew to the updates that were made. I would like to have one myself but could never get one because I was a day late or a dollar short. Bandit   [Reply]  [No Email]
JJL 12-24-2012 19:23:29 209.103.250.51 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Wicksfield, 12-24-2012 12:20:56   Probably the biggest issue was jumping out of gears. The later models were supposed to be better, but I do not know the exact cutoff. I think it is around the 18000 and later serial numbers. Otherwise the diesels are very fuel efficient. They do have LIVE PTO in the form of putting the Power Director into neutral, which stops the tractor but keeps the PTO running. My 190XT Series III has around 4200 hours and has plenty of power and weight for my baling needs, even in the steep hills.   [Reply]  [No Email]
old 12-25-2012 07:18:10 209.86.226.40 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to JJL, 12-24-2012 19:23:29   Shoot a good old D-17 is more then enough to handle a baler like that on. When I still had an XT190 I used it on a NH850 round baler and it just played with it. But the baler also calls for a tractor that is 55-75HP no smaller or no bigger. A XT190 as per the Neb test is right at 98 HP   [Reply]  [No Email]
Lazy WP 12-24-2012 15:10:22 184.63.77.143 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Wicksfield, 12-24-2012 12:20:56   I liked the one I had. It was a series 3. Biggest complaint I had was the way you get live power. I think it had nearly 10,000 hours on it. Got to the point where it would jump out of 3rd and 4th gear. Was a loader tractor as long as I owned it, and I shifted it with my foot more then I ever did by hand. Extremely fuel efficient, and handy tractor. I think somewhere around 90 horse, but I have seen them turned up to nearly 150, and they still held together.   [Reply]  [No Email]
old 12-24-2012 14:44:52 209.86.226.32 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Wicksfield, 12-24-2012 12:20:56   Had a XT190 about 10 years ago. Way to big for my 44 acres of hay ground so traded it off. Had lots of power and didn't seem to drink diesel all that fast. Many guy I know loved to hate them and even knew a dealer or 2 that would not even own one for any reason what so ever. The later ones are the better ones. The early one had some transmission and rear end problems.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Too Far Gone 12-24-2012 14:00:57 216.146.243.211 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Wicksfield, 12-24-2012 12:20:56   Ive had 190 and 200.Diesel Motors with near 3000 hrs and never been overhauled,expect to do it soon.Ive done two,steel hydraulic lines are no longer available so rubber ones are needed now.They have NO LIVE POWER,Just the hand clutch like a wd 45.Those were the only gripes I really had,other than the 200 with cab still was too lite for baler work in hills.The baler full would push you to the bottom if you werent careful.If the hand clutch stays in both sides and it dont pop out of too many gears,the steering is great,brakes are usually good,start good,dont use much fuel,pretty comfortable,good controls,dont bring much,so not too expensive,and there are a lot of them for parts.Not diggin on'em.Just my experiences.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Jim Phelps 12-25-2012 07:27:55 98.93.155.120 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Too Far Gone, 12-24-2012 14:00:57   A 200 was too light for baler work, I baled with a 185, no weights using a JD 535 round baler and baled alot of hills here and never had that issue, when I switched to the 175 there was a weight issue.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Too Far Gone 12-26-2012 00:49:39 216.146.243.211 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Jim Phelps, 12-25-2012 07:27:55   Its no heavier than a 200.You may have it weighted down,but a 185 is a lil ol tractor,just a step above running a D 19   [Reply]  [No Email]
Jim Phelps 12-26-2012 09:21:26 12.169.233.25 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Too Far Gone, 12-26-2012 00:49:39   Nope ran it bare, no front weights or wheel weights, most of the customers wanted a full 5 by 6 bale, which usually came in around 1500 to 2000lbs depending on how dry the hay was. I had no problems with the 185 on hills ever, but like I said once it was down for repairs and I finished about 25 acres for a guy on hills with the 175, that was a different story, had to make sure I watched how big the bale was and where I was to dump it.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Too Far Gone 12-26-2012 14:05:27 216.146.243.211 Report to Moderator	Re: 190XT Pro's Con's in reply to Jim Phelps, 12-26-2012 09:21:26   You bring that operation to some of my hills and fill up your baler,you'd better hang on or get'er turned uphill.I only ever had a couple of spots that it happened,but it DID happen.All I know is that it dont push a 4430 or 1066, 1086   [Reply]  [No Email]