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AC C - parts rattling around in radiator

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Noah in IA

11-25-2012 11:52:19
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Hey Guys,

This morning I was planning on re-installing the radiator on my dad"s model "C" tractor. Before putting it back, I thought it best to blast out the fins with compressed air. While handling it I noticed a rattle of loose parts inside the upper tank. I looked inside the filler neck and saw a red colored hose or wire about a 1/4" in diameter and a curved piece of sheet metal which is apparently non-ferrous as my magnet picker wouldn"t grab it. Any idea what these parts are, how to get them out, and if this radiator is junk or not? Any advice is much appreciated!

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Dick L

11-25-2012 13:43:28
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Noah in IA, 11-25-2012 11:52:19  
That is just a baffle that deflects the water flow that came un soldered. It will not cause a problem as is. To get it repaired the top tank has to be removed and soldered back on.



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Noah in IA

11-25-2012 13:51:03
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Dick L, 11-25-2012 13:43:28  
DickL - sorry, missed the part of your post saying it won't cause a problem...



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Noah in IA

11-25-2012 13:48:14
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Dick L, 11-25-2012 13:43:28  
DickL - Thanks for your help; would this repair be a cheaper alternative to replacing the entire radiator? Also, do you think that this loose baffle will restrict coolant flow and cause the tractor to overheat? I'm still debating whether or not to put it back on the tractor as is or have it repaired/replaced before it causes a problem...



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Dick L

11-25-2012 13:54:32
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Noah in IA, 11-25-2012 13:48:14  
What ever your comfortable with. You can get a quote from a radiator shop to find out the difference. I have one the same way on my one mower tractor and it has not caused a problem other than rattle once and a while.



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Ted J

11-25-2012 13:27:19
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Noah in IA, 11-25-2012 11:52:19  
Got one of those things that Lonnie is talking about at Harbor Freight. There was also a magnetic ended one too. Don't remember the $ but it was a lot cheaper than the one on epay.
Or just go to www.harborfreight.com and put 'pickup tool' in the search box.
They have good and bad tools. The price is right for most of them though.

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Lonnie Smith

11-25-2012 11:58:38
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Noah in IA, 11-25-2012 11:52:19  
If you can't roll it around and get it to fall out I have a spring loaded grabber thing for fishing stuff out of gas tanks and such.Pretty handy to have around. Probably wont hurt anything if you can't get it out.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spring-Claw-Flexible-Grabber-Tool-/310106522370?pt=UK_Measuring_Tools_Levels&hash=item4833ca0302



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Noah in IA

11-25-2012 13:36:36
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Lonnie Smith, 11-25-2012 11:58:38  
Thanks for the tip guys - borrowed one of those grabber tools from dad but the sheet metal part appears to be much bigger than the filler neck opening...its almost as wide as the upper tank. I talked to Dad about the parts I saw and he suggested the sheet metal part may have been some sort of baffle that has broken loose - your thoughts? I think I'm going to go ahead and re-install the radiator despite the floating parts and just keep an eye on the coolant temp...replacement radiators are not cheap!...thanks again

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Ted J

11-25-2012 13:45:23
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 Re: AC C - parts rattling around in radiator in reply to Noah in IA, 11-25-2012 13:36:36  
HERE IS THE same tool that I have. REAL cheap.
for this kind of money, you can't afford NOT to have it. I agree, it is probably the top baffle that goes just under the fill opening. I wouldn't worry about it either.



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