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KEVIN M. DRISCOLL SR.

10-08-2012 16:20:50
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PLEASE HELP...I AM TRYING TO DETERMINE THE AGE OF MY
"NEW" ALLIS CHALMERS "B" TRACTOR. IT IS A CRANK START MODEL WITH A 4 CYLINDER ENGINE AND 3 SPEED TRANSMISSION. THERE ARE NO IDENTIFYING MARKINGS EXCEPT FOR A NUMBER STAMPED INTO THE COVER OF THE TRANSMISSION NEAR THE FUEL TANK. THESE NUMBERS ARE: B 31202. THERE ARE ALSO NUMBERS ON THE REAR AXEL COVER. THESE ARE AM 2787-9. I HAVEN'T FOUND A CHART THAT DECODES THESE NUMBERS. PLEASE HELP!

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Will Herring

10-10-2012 04:53:58
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to Dodgeit, 10-08-2012 16:20:50  
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Good to know, actually. Thanks.



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Dick L

10-09-2012 06:47:08
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to KEVIN M. DRISCOLL SR., 10-08-2012 16:20:50  
I sure would like to find a dash 9 block like you have. If you have a problem with making it run I would do a rebuilt engine trade for it. Having a 1939 should have a dash 10 if early or a dash 11 for most.



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Dick L

10-09-2012 06:51:14
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 Sorry Missed where the dash ( in reply to Dick L, 10-09-2012 06:47:08  
I missed on the first read where the dash 9 was located. I still would like a dash 9 block if one is open for trade.



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Mark - IN.

10-08-2012 18:38:55
24.15.151.102



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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to KEVIN M. DRISCOLL SR., 10-08-2012 16:20:50  
Kevin,

You can go to tractordata.com and it shows what others have posted, 1939. This is a great site full of helpful people and even the owners/moderators try to be as helpful and friendly as possible. But, out of respect most try not to post competitive links to this site. I don't know or think that tractordata.com is though. If you go there, in the upper left corner, under "Tractors" select "Farm Tractors", then "Allis Chalmers", then "B". You will find some useful info, as well as the year that she was built.

Much good luck, and use her safely.

Mark

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Will Herring

10-08-2012 17:51:22
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to Jeff P in SC, 10-08-2012 16:20:50  
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I take it this is true with a WD as well? You can take the machine out of gear with the PTO still turning, but you can't shift it back in to another gear?

I can believe that. They can be notoriously fickle to shift as it is, it seems.



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maxwell99

10-08-2012 17:32:04
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to KEVIN M. DRISCOLL SR., 10-08-2012 16:20:50  
kevin,
this film is on a wd-45, as i could not find a good film on the wd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYH3q9nJ-fc

but well worth the watch, they were great old tractors,

i had a D-14 that was Suppose to replace the wd-45, but it would not do it.

just understand the old AC tractors did not have a (live clutch) they had a hand clutch to run the roto baler and combine,

but, for a bush hog the pto must be stopped for you to change gears forward to reverse and back.

with a bush hog, it take the hog a while to stop turning the pto shaft, and the tractor can be hard or not be able to shift until the pto shaft stops turning.

this is the only problem i ever had with the old D-14, otherwise i liked it.

however it worked better with snap couple equip.

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BushogPapa

10-09-2012 19:57:33
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to maxwell99, 10-08-2012 17:32:04  
Well, once you know the operation of a WD or WD-45, you know NOT to take it out of gear until you have the PTO Stopped...
All you need to do is push in on the Foot clutch and ride both Brakes, to force the PTO to Stop..
You also NEVER engage the PTO without the transmission in Gear first (and standing still)..to keep from clashing the PTO Gears..

Ron..



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BushogPapa

10-09-2012 19:56:13
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to maxwell99, 10-08-2012 17:32:04  
Well, once you know the operation of a WD or WD-45, you know NOT to take it out of gear until you have the PTO Stopped...
All you need to do is push in on the Foot clutch and ride both Brakes, to force the PTO to Stop..
You also NEVER engage the PTO without the transmission in Gear first..to keep from clashing the PTO Gears..

Ron..



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David R Inman

10-08-2012 22:08:08
150.135.210.67



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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to maxwell99, 10-08-2012 17:32:04  
AC/ some may have calmed the D14 was to replace the WD45, but considering it was the D17 that used essentially the same block as the WD45, I'd say it's the 45's replacement. Even our D15 seams to be out pulled by our 45's, which makes sense, given Nebraska data.



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Lonnie Smith

10-08-2012 16:39:49
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to KEVIN M. DRISCOLL SR., 10-08-2012 16:20:50  
1939



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Diydave

10-08-2012 16:24:02
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to KEVIN M. DRISCOLL SR., 10-08-2012 16:20:50  
Go to the left side of the page, here, click on the blue serial numbers line, in the research and info section. Oh, and if you use all caps, people think you are yelling.



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Ted J

10-08-2012 16:58:22
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 Re: ALLIS CHALMERS TRACTOR in reply to Diydave, 10-08-2012 16:24:02  
Using caps once in a while denotes something to be accented. Using ALL caps means you are yelling at everyone. Take your Caps Lock OFF!
The B 31202 means that your Allis is a 1939 model. Two years older than my 1941 C.
The number AM 2787-9 is the PART number that was put in by the factory.
ENJOY your Allis, they are FUN!



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